I’ve only been there three months and it seemed like three years. I think you are going to be much happier now Joe. I don’t think your experience is all too uncommon. Hopefully you will like it and will post a great review of it both on Amazon.com and here on your blog. So even though I was able to get the technical stuff done, I was penalized because I wasn’t the most extroverted or well connected person during focal. Best of luck with your next chapter. My wife has been the stay at home mom and her fulltime earning potential is only 1/5th my current salary. They really squeeze the blood out of their workers! Most people don’t really care how fast a computer runs these days. I used to be a tax consultant. Engineering career anyone? This didn’t compare favorably with single engineers who enjoy working until 10 pm. Arizona also has many defense and non-defense jobs. You might get lucky. Good luck! Believe it or not but having that skill is actually a detriment to one’s corporate engineering career, if one doesn’t pursue the MBA-like tracks. @Ernie – sure, no point in working at a place that causes you both mental and physical pain. Very interesting to read. See the original article here. Aside from this theme, sure, the movie’s a great depiction of what happens to a kid, after growing up in an abusive the foster system but in reality, that’s a story for a lot of people, not just some random genius from South Boston. It’s a terrible career field. Except we have not invested in a way I could retire at 45 and still eat, not to mention raise the kids for about 12 more years and put them through college. I find that many companies lose sight of what is important with employees and end up pushing them out the door. Hence I decided to move into the area of of web design(HTML/CSS,Photoshop,Flash) and developement. I have always been told by teachers, friends and family that Engineers "will never worry about unemployment" and they are highly respected in society. The defense industry has become highly aggressive (as most defense jobs are immune from competition from H-1B candidates) and the management exploits this fact. Typically I will stick around through my second year without a pay increase, then update the resume, take a 15-20% increase with the new employer and then give my goodbyes. Got tired of working in the downtown area of our metropolis and my wrists were starting to hurt from the constant clicking of the mouse, so I moved to a small town and went to work for the road design branch of my state’s DOT. What changed it for me was when I used my experience and education (Masters in business) and formed my own technical services company. Students could take graduate-level courses during their senior year and shorten the time to complete the Master’s degree. I was too laid back and I hated telling people what to do. Envious of the sales person, who on his slowest month still makes more money than I do. I don’t know what I’ll be doing in my 40s and 50s but I may well find myself feeling the same way you did! , I love engineering, I love what I do. Technical only carries you so far. They don’t care about you. Everyone who is thinking about quitting their job should read Financial Samurai’s book: How to engineer your layoff. Make sure you understand the compensation and flexibility of any career investment. Civil is the most secure from what I see. This all sounds so nice and dandy but I must admit I am scared out of my brains for this big shift because of all of the time and energy I have already invested in a career thus far. Qualification wise Job Vacancies 10th pass Govt. I hope this answers some questions for readers with aspirations in engineering. Let me explain. Well, I jumped between construction engineering, physics, commercial law and pharmacy. That could be partly due to the fact that if they stick it out seven years, they get a two month paid vacation. I think big corporations are the bigger issue, controlled by millionaire board members driven by the almighty dollar, and they make EVERYONE’S life miserable. How many wealthy entrepreneur engineers can you name? I found this blog brainstorming for some way of returning to engineering from my current career as a physician. This whole gig based engineering thing aerospace is killing the industry. I worked on the memory (DRAM) interface and learned a ton about how the computer chips were made. ), so hardly did they need to force anyone out via other methods. But I feel trapped in my job to retain health insurance as a single bad day could bankrupt me if I was without. As much as I enjoyed it then, I am not willing to go back to a fast paced high pressured environment like my first job nor am I willing to shift and try out a different engineering industry because I am sure 1 – 2 years down the line I will reach exactly the same state. The details you have to remember drive me crazy. So much less stress now as I forge ahead with new interests. Then, when you’re looking for another job, prospective employers see your work history and think you can’t hold a job because you’re not lucky enough to have found a steady job. The politics, stress, corporate silos(90 employees down from over 200), managers who did not really understand the technology and were afraid answering questions without consulting with a team of other managers kind of drug me down. However, don’t you think it would be prudent to find another job before quitting, especially in this very difficult, ultra-competitive job market? You have to get OT, if the clinic needs you and you have a salaried ~$90K/yr income, thus not hourly (for PAs, hourly workers have no time and a half for OT). As such, foreign engineers are being imported to take jobs, while more jobs are being exported through outsourcing. We need to plan an exit strategy. Regarding RB40’s situation of getting thrust up the management ranks, this is a typical corporate thing, not just Intel. The theme of ‘Good Will Hunting’ has proven itself to be a bit of a sham. They make too much money and don’t work as hard as young engineers. It is totally irrelevant how much time, money, and education one has invested in the past. A big company like Intel is overflowing with corporate BS. Engineering career, especially in big companies is an endless fight up the company ladder…engineering does not matter at all. I don’t want to end up like this. Engineering was fun in the beginning, but I got burned out. I had many different technical roles in my time, but construction industry was the longest stretch by far. After graduation I was employed as a Mechanical Engineer in the Oil and Gas industry but got thrown straight into project management. I am still relatively young, single and debt free and although I have to scale down quite a bit I have a few investments to carry me through. I’m an engineer by education and my 2 degrees, but never more than that. Perhaps it is just the way of life. * The deterioration of wages due to outsourcing and H1-B workers. It is much much better than working for a big corporation. If you come every day on time for 10 years and then management suddenly realizes people are late to work you will be among everyone when they give you the hard time and lecture you about timing. But if you get to a point in your career where you realize that it’s not giving you value, you need to move on from there. Unfortunately the Korean military system has no interest in giving people with a diploma a chance to stay on course. I am still behind because the 40% drop in home value is many years of stressful paychecks evaporated However knowing that I am rightside-up and most Americans are not gives me some encouragement. The key is to save and invest as soon as you can. I have interest in creative stuff, I like drawing and colors stuff. My salary will cover our expenses plus an additional 4K, even with the new baby expenses. Working part time is a great way to have the best of both worlds. Joe has done a great job of explaining why he left the engineering field, but it should not be overlooked or taken for granted that he enacted a plan to make that a reality. I suspect only a few people can become a successful entrepreneur in tech. Just save a lot and have an exit strategy in case it doesn’t work out. I think of quitting my job sometimes and take some time to actually decide what I really want to do. Well, most ASIC stuff, you can pick up pretty quickly. Fun at first but now is just a drag… I am obsessed with early retirement. I don’t do music anymore (a career I have had since high school – mostly on the side but full time for 5 years), but after 6 years of engineering in different companies, it was just not satisfying. Surely, there are exceptions but in my pretty long experience all companies are same when it comes to handling people and competency. Why management, in my area of work I never see or have seen managers travel more than 10% of the time on a 5 day basis. Not sure if you can retire in 5 years. When the weekend is up, you do it again. I fall into the latter category, where work is what enables me to find success in my personal life. Lots of people change majors. At first, I was an RCG and loved working late and even on weekends. But engineers are notoriously bad business people (there are some exceptions as you can see in the ENR top firms) and enjoy the technical side much more. Thanks for visiting! Also, my wife still works. I’m hoping to work and save for 10 years as an engineer (until I’m 35), and then from there I’m not sure. I couldn’t stand it. There’s no need “to retire” when one can have a part-time but long term career which provides some intellectual & interpersonal stimulation while not having to drip into one’s retirement portfolio. This was not what I experienced elsewhere, where older engineers could remain essentially individual contributors. Were you the one supporting the family mainly for 15 years? I have just completed my 3 years in this IT field and the same kind of insecure feeling i have got. Engineering is a broad work category that refers to jobs that use science and mathematics to solve a variety of problems. I’m a stay at home dad/blogger now. I know engineering is very applicable in getting many different jobs in the real world, but my main fear is that these other majors I have mentioned don’t have as much applicability or opportunities in the job market. I got across your blog because after 1.5yrs of being retired I am contemplating on returning to the work force but don’t want an engineering career in the same industry. Its actually more technical than people realize with building codes and construction drawings. I feel I’m getting better at this although it doesn’t come naturally …. It’s great that you successful in your field. “once things get too bad, we may as well open up a dive shop and Dairy Queen in Palau and call it good” Heck, there have been times when I am in a grocery line and see the person bagging groceries and say to myself “man, I would love that level of stress for a day or two, it would be great”. They have best future in technology. I lost interest in the job/career. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I think you’ve invested too many years in education and professional experience to simply quit the workforce. I was just a cog in the wheel and anyone can replace me. The reason for this is two fold, for one, too many PharmD programs came up during the past decade but more so, as in long term trends, robotics can replicate the pharmacist’s work while in tandem, the pharmacist isn’t able to bill himself out, as a health care ‘provider’, to outset the rise of the machines taking over his job. So, no, when I stopped working, I wasn’t supporting us. Job security is definitely getting worse though. You might be the expert in any field but if your manager is incompetent so you will be in the eyes of the higher management guys. Employees are viewed much more as resources than people, so they are treated that way: long hours, extremely stressful projects and timelines, changing technology to keep up with, younger and younger competitors with more energy, CORPORATE POLITICS, etc. That’s the doctor’s role in the delivery of health care and thus, given the sheer volume of expected diagnosis per day for the regular internal medicine physician, a good PA (technical plus communication skills) is worth a heck of a lot more to a clinic than a mediocre one. I wish I had the opportunities you did, I am currently a freshman in College and am pursuing a software engineering degree. They can be generalists and make a living. Typical EE not doing EE work, right? I haven’t done anything related to engineering since I left in 2012. My parents still disapprove but hey it’s from my pocket. Have we secured stuff so well that security in now more of a hobby? And one can still pursue an undergraduate degree part-time, just in case, a white collar/management track opens up in the construction (or infrastructure) industry, though I imagine it’s probably a better lifestyle just to be in a union, than to spend time in management just to tell others that one’s white collar. Luckily, we have a couple of years worth of money we can siphon off of our IRA’s, but at 51, do I really want to do that? Money is nice, but it’s much better to enjoy life with as little stress as possible. At least you gave it a shot, right? 13 Dead-End Careers To Avoid In Today's Economy Thinking about changing careers or looking to start a new one? When I had the right manager who know what I could do, it was fine. Thus more of the older folks become “full-time direct consultants” rather than the go-to guys. I am working for last 7 years and seems like I am stagnant with only 3% raise each year… only way up is taking business consultant position with 50% of travel time. Upper management should be the most understanding of this short term “it’s just business” mindset. It’s mean more opportunities have for the engineering graduates. I’ve always been good at math so engineering was a first round pick but I’ve never been interested with the common fields. I just hit 8 years with the company I hired on with directly from college. Good luck with changing your career. I butted heads with my managers for a 5-7 years over this, telling them I just wanted to design things. Like a dog with his tail between his legs. Got to agree with brian. Some people love engineering, but I saw many people who are just hanging on for the paycheck too. Intel is one of the better company in the industry from what I understand. I have left jobs 4 times in my career, for not just zero work life balance but having zero life. This is very similar to my development curve when I was young. I don’t know. It’s a cautionary tale. An engineer needs to evolve. I’m more than unhappy right now with my current situation, even on the verge of having mental issues that are starting to affect my health. I am currently 35. And my company also moved 20 miles further away, adding to my commute time. I’ve been laid off, let go, walked out, ect., ect. You should leave then, and not waiting for things to go wrong. That’s hard, though. After a year at the first place again, I decided to change streams and moved out of state to a company that deals with cable power systems. I too am an engineer and have undergone a similar transformation as I’ve progressed throughout my career. Yes, I think it’s a better idea than being a full-time blogger. LOL! The career was long, I made it to Sergeant Major, and I would not have traded a minute of it for anything in the world. Warren County High School seniors Alex Yates, left, and David Romero work on an assembly … My husband and I are in a similar boat. You should save up as much money as you can for now and explore alternative careers. I hope you don’t take this as an attack, because it’s really not. Most companies expect senior personnel to engage in quasi-managerial activities to some extent, but Intel codifies this explicitly in upper grade level expectations at a high level (although this usually isn’t obvious to outsiders based upon published job descriptions). You start your career in “resource mode”, frantically learning how to execute on the technical end but without having to “manage work” per se. Or maybe you will find that you must have design or arts in your career. Those were just things I liked to do. Several of them were severe alcoholics stumbling late into work each day with an occassional bruise or two from the night before. Thanks for sharing. It’s just not worth the pressure of having to bring in well into 6 figures just to get by. I’m sure some senior level engineers are happy with their jobs and still enjoy their time at work. Most young engineers should learn about this option. You just need to work a lot at the beginning. I don’t think it would be wise to keep this up for two more months with my current pace. I am 49 and have been an engineer for 20 years now and want to change professions. We all know those people and they are not fun. Most days I really enjoy what I do, but the long hours and stress level is very high in my world as well. If you read about the “golden times” of the chip industry, they also had problems back then. However, instead of being promoted, I fell in the trap of political fight in the corporate. I am the only America in my group, one of the few who design. If you only have a year left, maybe it’s better to grind it out. You were there for for 16 years yeah? One of my favorite blog posts ever is by one of my favorite bloggers. He is an engineer and I am in accounting/finance. I think getting an advanced diploma could be a good way to “fill up” my near empty resume from the undergrad, but at the same time I am not sure if I want to do this. I’ll mark the date on my calender and make sure to drop by. I bounced back (although my GPA is still below 3.0) and started to enjoy part of my major slightly more. or am I being reasonably feared? The functions performed will still need to be performed, regardless of what you title the person in that position. Do you have an update? My company does have the technical track, where you’re expected to continue your education (PhD), publish papers, and research, which is not a bad thing. It’s not enough to just be good at the technical side. At the end of the day, this is all I have seen; you find a company that is small/medium and has a niche in a market that seems sustainable for your path. It seems most of those people doesn’t do much technical works though. At the entry and midlevel, it was enough to excel at the technical side. “Both my parents and my grandpa were all doctors,” Alan, a hospital marketing … I know you could probably say that, for me, it’s way too early to start complaining about what I do, and that my lack of experience could be the leading factor to some of my disengagement. In fact you might will understand the field of Design/Analog Verification of ICs, which I am currently in and have been working in this field for 4 years now. Here are several recommendations to get started: Use simple mentor-of-the-moment conversation starters. I think this MS/BS combo program was a great idea. There is a fair amount of pressure but not constantly (only close to release deadlines) and my team (and boss) do not expect me to clock in hours on weekend so ideally I shouldn’t have anything to complain about and should be thankful for where I am at. I’m 40 right now and can definitely see myself writing code until i’m dead. You’d have to compete with 20 something kids who don’t mind spending 80 hours on the job. * In larger companies, the demotivating performance evaluations where only X amount of the workers are allowed to get an “outstanding” rating, even if the entire team goes above and beyond the call of duty. In fact, in many instances, it probably grew out of tradespersons (who we may have called themselves engineers had the word been around at the time). area both small and large. Maybe you will find that it’s enough and your passion for your original job is rekindled. Hey, I’m a senior in HS debating what major to pick. I think most senior people who are strictly individual contributors will eventually get squeeze out though. Is this field a field that I should not go into, regardless how much I like computers because it seems to me that the future is not to bright for ECEs. The 25+ year career guys are just the ones lucky enough to survive and perform as project engineers/managers. Anyone there more than 10 years has survived at least 2-3 layoffs, so you look around and (almost) everyone else has been through the same “layoff filters” as I call them. My reasons for going into engineering as different from yours. That might work for you techie guys at can work at home, but the fight in aviation is the new school management idea to save money by paying for what you need when you need it doesn’t work very well for airplanes. ), and am in the process of getting my real estate license. I’ve been in engineering for 32 years since age 20. In hindsight, I probably could have done things a little differently to have tried to hang in there. Go figure! 1. There’s really no longer an incentive to stay in this field, other than the good salary, which really isn’t all that good if you think about it. The expectation is high and I am kind of taking up the slack that another senior engineer has created (he is content to sit in a corner and work alone). I want to reach out and experience that things that a young 20 something year old should be (creating awesome products, working on collaborative teams, enjoying work/life), instead of grinding out code all day on test equipment. Kids just have to be prepared to transition to something else. Do you enjoy it (considerably more)? The other exam everyone did do bad, but that was because the prof didn’t design the test in the best way he could’ve done it. BUT about 50% of my friends have disliked their jobs at the same company and quit. If you don’t make it in 15 years, then get out and find something else to do. Yes, unfortunately, even good jobs can be dead-end jobs—or positions with little to no room for advancement. Some of your options include engineering work in the mechanical, software, biomedical, chemical, environmental and electrical fields.With so many choices, it’s almost certain that you’ll find a sector that’s just right for you. Today, America's workforce is running scared. Ever since the downturn, the teams shrunk and the work load grew. I remember during my children’s college orientation the Chancellor said that you should be prepared for multiple careers. Work life out of college is not what they said it would be, I have no mentor, no goals, no achievements that I want to strive for, simply because I do not know how to acquire them. We had 5 levels of performance rankings w/in each pay level. I would have too. If most young adults are certain of there future then consider me one that isn’t. That’s the problem with big companies. Long hours yes, but there was an energy, a life to that place that was amazing. If the field needs you, you have some experience (internships, etc. Probably, you really did gave up your engineering career, but did you give up on your engineering skills too. There isn’t a good word for leaving a career. It is a high stress job with little flexibility and constant demand for after hours work that is not sustainable. I find it hard to find a 30 hour week job so I tolerate the 50-60 hours/week but take off after 6-8 months. You might even end up compromising their health and safety. No. I guess that’s why we need to keep learning new things. You will now notice some new faces, as you will have a new manager installed between you and your current manager, the negative changes to your benefits package, stagnant wage, even more meetings and reports to make sure your doing your job, as if the last reports and meetings weren’t enough to justify your position. Every boring meeting I attend I fantasize with retirement. The job was still fun because I was learning a ton of stuff and had many friends at work. “Management” as conceived by the Harvard Business School is a massively overrated. Thirty years of being retired is a long time and I find that reentering the work force occasionally challenges me so that I keep my mental facilities sharp and fit. I contribute to about 50% of our expense and I’m pretty happy with that. Enjoyed reading your blog and found most of your comments to be spot on. After 15 years in engineering I’ve learned to drop the stress completely out of my job. I’d value your perspective.” “The hiring committee sure got it right bringing you on board. 4. Which one fulfill better the human soul most? I feel guilty for my ongoing lack of engagement. I believe that you will see a mass movement among the Boomers in the next few years who choose to return to work for a short time and/or volunteer. I've applied to front-end, back-end, software engineer, QA, database admin, data analyst, etc. I’m not really sure if I can be an engineer my whole life. If you can get a position, I’d say go for it. I’m sure it’s the standard operating procedure to squeeze as much as they can out of engineers. Most people don’t have the planning or forethought as you had, so that’s why I enjoy following your journey. As a pharmacist I can tell you your work experiences are very relatable. They replaced him with a corporate automaton from another company that they had bought, who knew nothing and wanted to change the entire way we had been doing projects for years. A good place to start is with a list of jobs that are best to be avoided. A sedentary job is the norm now. After you get an engineering degree enroll to get a MBA as soon as you can. Long-term rewards often require careful planning and/or sacrifice in another area. I just received my programming grade and got a C-. You can invest in apartments, self-storage, strip malls, office buildings, medical offices, and more. I worked for Intel while in college, and realized that company wasn’t for me. A cheap laptop works pretty well these days. Consequently, I didn’t put much effort into them. I realized engineering just wasn’t for me, it helps to know that there are people out there that have experienced that in the workplace. They do exist but are in the vast minority. I worked with the Memory subsystem for 16 years. I’ve burned through both my savings and my 401k just surviving, and am now living with family. Once you get through them, then you can focus on other classes you have more aptitude for. That’s another reason why I don’t like the corporate world. Graduate schools in Korea offer no financial support, and I find people there to be quite irrationally hierarchical and egoist. I just came across this article and it spoke to me on a very relatable and granular level. The reason i’m having a hard time turning my back on the field of engineering is because of the financial reasons, mostly its job stability/availability. Would like to add an update to my comment above. At. In the meantime, research interior design: residential or commercial? Let me know how it turns out in a few years. I know some people who still like their job after 25 years. He works for a small company, though. Incidentally, Les wrote to me a few years later and he did okay. That’s right. If one’s a physician assistant (PA) then that very combination of skills can win over the doctors/nurses, administrators, as well as the patient population. what is a suggested asset allocation (you mention dividends, any examples of companies you currently invest in) and what amount do you think is enough for retirement at 40? Good luck with the job search. A guy I worked with at Lockheed (around 60 now, and laid off) was from DEC in the Boston area. That’s the problem with engineering. These people are not in front of the computer 10 hours daily. In between I studied commercial law, and it wasn’t bad either, I liked it – but missed the science. You should try getting a different job with a different company. Not every org is like this – by far – but a fair number are. Hi, I know this is an old blog but wanted to comment on this regardless. I did a little moving back and forth too. Laid off after 1 year, so I took a 2 week vacation and then started in with another firm across the street. Only the top 10% get good raises (ie more than 1% above inflation). As much as I love engineering though, I always go back to the thing a diving friend of mine and I say to each other. Hope one day I will also have my freedom to choose if I want quit my job Regards from Spain. Just a further note that in 1991 when there was a recession happening and shortly after I wrote and self-published my international bestseller “The Joy of Not Working”, I received this letter from a reader: I have just finished reading your book “The Joy of Not Working.” Your inspirational words have changed the way I now view my life. Job #5 lasted 2 1/2 years and the site was unceremoniously closed in 2003. Sadly, engineering is the "invisible" profession. Why engineers should plan for an early retirement. So we figure his manager figured why not screw him over since he wouldn’t be in his unit the next year anyhow. But I m not big fan of being on the road for client site visit. Money was good most of the time but I got sacked twice in 2008 and again in 2011 so I was jobless for about 1.5 years , I always hear some friend got sacked because no work or client not paying …etc . That’s why I’m hesitant to advise my kid to go into tech. Most people can tolerate corporate America, but it really isn’t for me. The worst thing about the private sector engineering jobs is that you are salaried and are expected to put in 50-60 hours a week. Good luck! Can you please give me some advice on possible options I can consider? For example, many people have no concept that engineers are behind most tangible things encountered daily, from the car they drive to work to the computer they toil in front of. 3. A majority of engineers can’t be among Wall Street’s Silicon Valley’s darlings. It’s all about meeting, planning, and that kind of work at that level. Nonetheless, since it is easier to play the cards I have been dealt with rather than wonder about the life that may have been, I am planning towards pursuing my master’s next year while doing a thesis so I can taste the Research domain (my job right now comes under the R&D vertical but i seriously doubt I am remotely doing any “research”.). That’s normally more than 1 out of 5 graduates for STEM students. Health care is the most solid hiring sectors in the economy and I suspect … the PA’s role is possibly the most important one long term. Waiting until a recession is a bad move. Good luck finding another EE job. Many of my friends have troubles too, but it’s much easier if you are in the right area. It’s as if corporate & academic America control the press/media and the ppl actually working in the field have no say on what gets reported to the general public. And I doubt I will like it if I do get one. This is my 6th year in the undergraduate program because I failed many classes in my 3rd-4th years in college. On top of that, I have been networking via LinkedIn and I’ve gotten interview offers from companies across the USA and Canada. Unfortunately, this has not been the case and thus, the pharmacist will going the way of the engineer, a powerless tool in the world of corporate America. I’m a civil engineer, master’s degree in structures. all defense companies w/in 200 miles have had layoffs this year and Lockheed has cut workers (around 70% to 85% over 40 years old) FOUR years in a row! The blog post is titled “Top-10 Reasons You Should Never Get a Job” and it is by Steve Pavlina, author of “Personal Development for Smart People”, http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/. Do you love to program? I became more senior and the expectation was to sit in god awful meetings all day, make slides sets, and influence others. I have an IT role in an Operations group. My employer, a small defense contractor that is actually a branch of a holding company is having hard times. Intel does have a path for senior level individual contributors. Hourly, that comes out to a $19.23 wage. Have been laid off 19 times in those 35 years of a mix of contract and full time positions. The flip side is you don’t have to be an engineer forever. I know this post is over a year old, but just wondering what you ended up doing. Software Engineering Is a Dead-End Career, Says Bloomberg 738. Eventually, one realizes that work and, especially volunteering, can be fun and an interesting part of a retirement program. I would just add that I totally agree with you here. Total insult. And we all had a huge discussion about chemical engineers and this guy couldn’t even fathom passing thermodynamics & fluid dynamics, never mind getting the B+’s to A’s needed to even land an internship in the field. Dittos on what makeupgirl says. The ability to negotiate for a high salary, dissipated since those times. I am trying to explore my options after 1.5yrs of not working. I miss the music, and a real pipe organ in a stone church – thrilling! I think at that point for some that are inclined so, it can be good to forge your own path and go down the inventor route. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing your experience. What about accountants – are they asked about obscure tax laws? I think that programming skills are really important but I don’t want to sit in a chair all day! And still it´s a miracle what the deeper cause behind the problem is. A good product is engineer driven, with everyone else in support. WTF.”. Everything you watch on TV or anywhere you travel has law in it – and it makes it a lot exciting. However, I don’t know what to do after that. I persevered. In your opinion, are the issues you mention specific to Intel, or are they likely to be present with any company over a certain size? But for many, an office job can be a dull, dead-end career that wears away at emotional health. Short term, finding a new job may solve some problems but it won’t necessarily solve the root (only you will know). 10 years after i am pursuing fat fire…, “The guys in my level who landed the jobs weren’t necessarily the cream the crop academically but tended to be more outgoing socially and thrived in team projects. So far, no errors in all those years of operations. Nevertheless, at least in software, there is always somewhere else to work where you can continue on as an individual contributor, or where it is easier to get a management/lead role, depending on which direction you wish to go (and aren’t getting traction on at your current employer). There’s only one problem with it. I finished my final project that high visibility with flying colors. However, some people may enjoy engineering/enjoy the career path. It happens to a lot of people. It used to be like this for us as well, but it feels as if a solar flare has hit semiconductor corporations around the year 2010 making their management and financial controlling idiots transfer into a zombie mode. It has been getting noticed by just about everyone I interact with…. Hey there, sorry to hear you have so much doubt. ... Three Signs You've Hit A Career Dead End. The job was not a good fit for me anymore. I really enjoyed that time with my son, but I’m glad he’s growing up too. When I was young, I thought the hours wasn’t that bad. I have just been recently let go (fired) from my job yesterday-right at the close of the 90 day probationary period. Also experienced my own autoimmune issues that aren’t going anywhere. It’s too late anyway. I’m much more ambivalent about performance increases. No surprise, long-time engineers tout computers as the biggest change they've seen in engineering.

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